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#1 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted September 15 2019 - 12:34 PM

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Here is a thread to post all the interesting things you have observed about various species of ants that don't seem to be documented elsewhere. I'll start: Camponotus novaeboracensis nests in soil, Formica pallidefulva doesn't usually spin cocoons, even in the wild, Crematogaster forms the longest and best defined trails I have seen from any ant other than Tapinoma sessileDolichoderus is extremely common in far northern Wisconsin, Formica montana forms massive supercolonies with perhaps dozens of queens, Myrmica cf. punctiventris does a jittery Opisthopsis-like walk sometimes when threatened, and is also very good at playing dead, staying still even when poked. Camponotus pennsylvanicus will rip up moss for the purpose of building nest entrances, even when other materials are present and more easily accessible. I am also surprised at how tolerant ants are underground; different species will nest in what is essentially the same spot, apparently without fighting. I don't know how interesting this really is, but the other day I saw a Prenolepis nest entrance for the first time; it looked like they were digging out after having been sealing off for their summer dormancy.


Edited by Antennal_Scrobe, September 15 2019 - 12:35 PM.

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Tetramorium immigrans, Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Myrmica punctiventris, Formica subsericea

Formica pallidefulva, Aphaeogaster cf. rudis

Camponotus pennsylvanicus

Camponotus nearcticus

Crematogaster cerasi

Temnothorax ambiguus

Prenolepis imparis


#2 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted September 15 2019 - 1:13 PM

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Camponotus nearcticus get majors fairly early in colony development. My 11 worker colony has 4-5 major larvae.
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#3 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted September 15 2019 - 1:30 PM

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My best guess about C. novaeboracensis is that they are "amphibious", sometimes living in strait up dirt, sometimes in wood, and often in mixed areas such as under a piece of particle board or in mulch. Would be cool to start calling it the subterranean carpenter ant rather than the red and black carpenter ant as it is usually called. This realization also solves the mystery of where that colony at the park is living. Now I wonder if this weird nesting habit helps them avoid competition with C. pennsylvanicus.


Edited by Antennal_Scrobe, September 15 2019 - 1:34 PM.

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Tetramorium immigrans, Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Myrmica punctiventris, Formica subsericea

Formica pallidefulva, Aphaeogaster cf. rudis

Camponotus pennsylvanicus

Camponotus nearcticus

Crematogaster cerasi

Temnothorax ambiguus

Prenolepis imparis


#4 Offline Canadian anter - Posted September 15 2019 - 1:33 PM

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A very large number of Camponotus species do that.
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#5 Offline ANTdrew - Posted September 15 2019 - 1:34 PM

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I’ve carefully documented the reliance of Crematogaster on NATIVE plants for aphid tending in my native plants journal.
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#6 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted September 15 2019 - 1:36 PM

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A very large number of Camponotus species do that.

Which ones?


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Tetramorium immigrans, Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Myrmica punctiventris, Formica subsericea

Formica pallidefulva, Aphaeogaster cf. rudis

Camponotus pennsylvanicus

Camponotus nearcticus

Crematogaster cerasi

Temnothorax ambiguus

Prenolepis imparis


#7 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted September 15 2019 - 1:37 PM

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I’ve carefully documented the reliance of Crematogaster on NATIVE plants for aphid tending in my native plants journal.

Maybe that explains why they aren't as ubiquitous as other ants.


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Tetramorium immigrans, Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Myrmica punctiventris, Formica subsericea

Formica pallidefulva, Aphaeogaster cf. rudis

Camponotus pennsylvanicus

Camponotus nearcticus

Crematogaster cerasi

Temnothorax ambiguus

Prenolepis imparis


#8 Offline NickAnter - Posted September 15 2019 - 2:29 PM

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Hypopnera readily forages above ground in the wild, in mornings and evenings. Also, Tetramorium immigrans are in Orange County.
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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#9 Offline Ferox_Formicae - Posted September 15 2019 - 2:55 PM

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Pheidole carrolii lives in both Georgia and South Carolina, Strumigenys silvestrii lives in South Carolina, Camponotus sexguttatus lives in the Florida Keys, Cyphomyrmex rimosus lives as far north as Columbia, South Carolina, Strumigenys louisianae often nest around termite colonies, sometimes under the same rock, Strumigenys membranifera has become the most common Strumigenys in the state of South Carolina, Strumigenys louisianae only become aggressive once their colony has reached a certain size, Trachymyrmex septentrionalis would rather take rose petals as fungus substrate than caterpillar frass, Camponotus americanus is often forced out by the more common Camponotus castaneus in central South Carolina, Temnothorax curvispinosus are occasionally arboreal, and Formica pallidefulva are mostly polygynous when other queens are around, but can also be pleometrotic.


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Camponotus chromaiodes, Camponotus nearcticus, Stigmatomma pallipesStrumigenys brevisetosaStrumigenys clypeataStrumigenys louisianaeStrumigenys membraniferaStrumigenys reflexaStrumigenys rostrata

 

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#10 Offline ponerinecat - Posted September 15 2019 - 4:50 PM

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Hypoponera are partly scavengers


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#11 Offline ponerinecat - Posted September 15 2019 - 6:54 PM

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Hyoponera opaciceps nests in wide shallow tunnel systems, and Hypoponera forage mostly at dusk and night.



#12 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted September 15 2019 - 7:15 PM

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That obnoxious Linepithema humile, the Argentine ant, can learn successively over several years that orange oil repellant is not to be feared. Years ago a good application of orange oil spray would keep them away for 2+ weeks at a stretch. Last couple years fresh applications of same brand of orange oil have been so ignored we've resorted to Raid. I'm amazed at the colony's ability to learn even when individuals don't survive that long.


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#13 Offline ponerinecat - Posted September 15 2019 - 7:22 PM

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Some ants like pheidole and solenopsis molesta live near the nests of linepithma humile successfully, and many cryptic and populations are undamaged by infestations of linepithma.



#14 Offline AnthonyP163 - Posted September 15 2019 - 7:57 PM

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I've found some interesting Lasius in Reedsburg, which is where Brachyponera chinensis has been reported.

 

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#15 Offline BeginnerAntKeeper - Posted September 15 2019 - 10:37 PM

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I’ve seen colour morphs of Carebara Diversa of varying amounts of red and darker-than-usual Pheidole Parva.

#16 Offline NickAnter - Posted September 16 2019 - 6:03 AM

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Also, Pheidole navigans tends root aphids, and Nylanderia vividula seem to only survive argentine ants by being fast enough to avoid them.

Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#17 Offline ANTdrew - Posted September 16 2019 - 8:57 AM

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Tapinoma sessile will walk across water to get to a desirable food source.


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#18 Offline Ferox_Formicae - Posted September 16 2019 - 9:07 AM

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Strumigenys membranifera are often found living alongside the two snap-jaw species S. louisianae and S. silvestrii.


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Camponotus chromaiodes, Camponotus nearcticus, Stigmatomma pallipesStrumigenys brevisetosaStrumigenys clypeataStrumigenys louisianaeStrumigenys membraniferaStrumigenys reflexaStrumigenys rostrata

 

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#19 Offline Manitobant - Posted September 16 2019 - 10:24 AM

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I’ve seen colour morphs of Carebara Diversa of varying amounts of red and darker-than-usual Pheidole Parva.

those red carebara diversa are probably carebara affinis. They are very similar and its easy to get the two confused.

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Formica Montana will accept queens back into the nest after nuptial flights, brachymyrmex depilis often live right next to another ant species, polyergus mexicanus are able to hunt and kill prey insects, tetramorium immigrans are in manitoba, dolichoderus pustulatus queens will parasitize dolichoderus taschenbergi colonies, myrmica queens of different species will not attack each other until after hibernation when they start colonies, and formica pergandei will sometimes drop off new queens in slave raids similar to polyergus.

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