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[Am3ricanBanana]

1. Location of collection: Natural park in San Diego

2. Date of collection: 9/5/19, day after thunderstorm
3. Habitat of collection: Desert scrub/oak forest next to stream
4. Length: #1: 5.5mm   #2: 10mm
5. Coloration, hue, pattern and texture: #1: Dull redish-orange all across body, bald as far as I can tell.   #2: Shiny black all across body, small hairs on thorax and especially on rings around gaster.
6. Distinguishing characteristics: #1: Single spine on thorax, two petiole nodes.    #2: Hard to determine but probably one petiole node.

7. Anything else distinctive: #1: Will not settle down in test tube setup.     #2: Sits calmly in test tube setup even when disturbed.
8. Nest description: Neither collected at nest

9. Nuptial flight time and date: #1 was for sure flying on the day of collection, I didn't see any alates of #2.
10. Pictures: #1

#2

[Ferox_Formicae]

The first queen looks to be a Stenamma spp. The second queen is definitely a Crematogaster spp. queen.

[Martialis]

Second is Crematogaster sp.

 

The first doesn't have clear enough photos for any clear ID, but I think Stenamma is a fairly good guess.

[ponerinecat]

same as ferox and martialis

[gcsnelling]

Not impossible for that first ant to be Stenamma but better pictures are for sure needed. Second one is definitely Crematogaster.

[Antennal_Scrobe]

Stenamma and Crematogaster.

[Am3ricanBanana]

Thanks everyone, sorry I don't have a good enough camera for better pictures so i'll take the stenamma id with a grain of salt.