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[DDD101DDD]

because it isin't a plant pest, in fact it's quite the opposite. Thus, it should be the same as Pogonomyrmex.

But they would be a little hard to raise, considering they use caterpillar frass for their fungus.

[camponotuskeeper]

I am working on exempting Trachymyrmex septontrialis as well.

Please get this excepted that would be amazing

[Rin]

I don't know how this deregulation got started but I'm having a wonderful time with my Pogonomyrmex colony! I'd like to see Formica subsearia.anyone else?

[TennesseeAnts]

That would be nice. I might do Lasius americanus or Lasius neoniger next though.

[Rin]

I am working on exempting Trachymyrmex septontrialis as well.

How does one get a species exempted? I would love to see Formica subsericea exempted.

[Kaelwizard]

Tetramorium should be an obvious choice. Unless they are still considered invasive even though they have found their place in the ecosystem.

[Zeiss]

Tetramorium should be an obvious choice. Unless they are still considered invasive even though they have found their place in the ecosystem.

Just because they "found their place in the ecosystem" doesn't mean they will stop being invasive.  They should not be legally/illegally spread.

[Kaelwizard]

Tetramorium should be an obvious choice. Unless they are still considered invasive even though they have found their place in the ecosystem.

Just because they "found their place in the ecosystem" doesn't mean they will stop being invasive. They should not be legally/illegally spread.

Why did you put that in quotes? In most places that is a very true fact. Please tell me if you feel otherwise, but I think they should be able to be added to the list just as much as Pogonomyrmex occidentalis, which FYI, aren’t even native to lots of the United States. I can easily get Tetramorium, as with lots of people, but I think that people who don’t have access to a easy species like this should be able too.

Edited by Kaelwizard, October 30 2019 - 1:31 PM.

[DDD101DDD]

 

 

Tetramorium should be an obvious choice. Unless they are still considered invasive even though they have found their place in the ecosystem.

Just because they "found their place in the ecosystem" doesn't mean they will stop being invasive. They should not be legally/illegally spread.

Why did you put that in quotes? In most places that is a very true fact. Please tell me if you feel otherwise, but I think they should be able to be added to the list just as much as Pogonomyrmex occidentalis, which FYI, aren’t even native to lots of the United States. I can easily get Tetramorium, as with lots of people, but I think that people who don’t have access to a easy species like this should be able too.

 

But the problem is that they grow pretty fast and can probably become invasive easily.

[Da_NewAntOnTheBlock]

Tetramorium should be an obvious choice. Unless they are still considered invasive even though they have found their place in the ecosystem.

Just because they "found their place in the ecosystem" doesn't mean they will stop being invasive. They should not be legally/illegally spread.

Why did you put that in quotes? In most places that is a very true fact. Please tell me if you feel otherwise, but I think they should be able to be added to the list just as much as Pogonomyrmex occidentalis, which FYI, aren’t even native to lots of the United States. I can easily get Tetramorium, as with lots of people, but I think that people who don’t have access to a easy species like this should be able too.

But the problem is that they grow pretty fast and can probably become invasive easily.

however, since they found their place in the US, what's to say they won't find their place in other areas?

[TennesseeAnts]

The amount of ecological harm that Tetramorium immigrans has done to "find its place" is incredible. Not quite as bad as Solenopsis invicta, S. richteri, or S. invicta x richteri, but Tetramorium immigrans should not be spread. If they get exempted, that means that one could ship queens to other countries where they aren't established yet, and cause even more harm.

Edited by TennesseeAnts, September 5 2021 - 12:59 PM.

[Da_NewAntOnTheBlock]

true, but the buyer should be aware of this situation.

[DDD101DDD]

true, but the buyer should be aware of this situation.

Sadly, most aren't. 

[Da_NewAntOnTheBlock]

maybe a disclaimer would be neccesarry

[TennesseeAnts]

I think it happens accidentally most of the time. When the colony grows too big too quickly, it can cause problems.

[Da_NewAntOnTheBlock]

maybe a disclaimer would be neccesarry

still stand by this

[TennesseeAnts]

But, being invasive, Tetramorium immagrans would never be exempted. We can still hope for natives, such as Lasius spp, Camponotus spp, Formica spp, Ponera spp, Hypoponera opacior, (maybe even Neivamyrmex!) and many more interesting, native ants.
Odontomachus bruennus might be doable.

[DDD101DDD]

In addition, there are several examples of pets escaping and causing substantial damage to the ecosystem. I also predict that some people would be unable to keep a colony from start to finish, and would end up releasing the ants into their environment. 

[Zeiss]

I think all invasives should be killed on spot.  I also put it in quotes because I was quoting you, Kael.  Invasive species should not be allowed to be spread further than they have already.  Some may try to justify that they are just trying to live and humans are at fault: yes, we are and we should correct our wrongs.  The only reason things will be exempted is if the USDA/APHIS are absolutely sure they would not become invasive if they were to possibly be released by someone whether it be willingly or by escapees.  

 

These are things that a good portion of people do not realise when dealing with invasive species of any phyla.

[Enderz]

 

Tetramorium should be an obvious choice. Unless they are still considered invasive even though they have found their place in the ecosystem.

Just because they "found their place in the ecosystem" doesn't mean they will stop being invasive.  They should not be legally/illegally spread.

 

Disagree; invasives are beautiful and portray the true ideals of the fascist ideology (in terms of fascism concerning ethnicity).