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DerpyBoas' Camponotus Novaeboracensis Journal (Colony died, Discontinued)

Started By DerpyBoas , Aug 2 2019 10:40 AM
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#21 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted August 21 2019 - 12:36 PM

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This colony is stubborn.

You are not alone.


Edited by AntsDakota, August 21 2019 - 12:37 PM.

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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis

#22 Offline DerpyBoas - Posted August 24 2019 - 1:32 AM

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Update August 24th, 2019

Its 5am, on my birthday, and what do I do before going to bed? Check on my stubborn ants! And yes, I go to bed late.

They still havent moved tubes. I found a desk lamp so I might try to shine a light on them since they are cozy. Just gotta watch temps, since the room is already warm.

Joan has 9 workers now! Its so exciting. I think I saw 2 or 3 more pupae with some larvae and/or eggs so maybe Ill get some more workers soon.

Wish I had more to add to this update but they don't really do much so...

Anyway, pics:

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#23 Offline DerpyBoas - Posted September 6 2019 - 8:25 AM

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Update September 6th

Colony died, the workers were having "seizures" then died and now the queen is.

I'm really sad, this colony was doing so good...

#24 Offline ANTdrew - Posted September 6 2019 - 8:51 AM

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Damn, that sucks. Sorry, man

After reading all these accounts, I don't agree with the whole Camponotus are easy to keep idea.


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#25 Offline DerpyBoas - Posted September 6 2019 - 9:24 AM

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Damn, that sucks. Sorry, man
After reading all these accounts, I don't agree with the whole Camponotus are easy to keep idea.


Yeah, been a lot of us experiencing similar symptoms in their colony.

Sucks, since Camponotus are my favorites.

#26 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted September 6 2019 - 9:41 AM

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Damn, that sucks. Sorry, man
After reading all these accounts, I don't agree with the whole Camponotus are easy to keep idea.


Camponotus are actually very easy to keep. But I agree, this year seems like something is killing everyone's Camponotus colonies. Hasn't reached mine yet, whatever it is.

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#27 Offline Lazarus - Posted September 6 2019 - 11:34 AM

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That's too bad, but don't give up. I haven;t a clue as to what could have happened, but definitely not the norm. My Camponotus Novaeboracensis have been my oldest and most stable colonies.


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#28 Offline ANTdrew - Posted September 6 2019 - 1:36 PM

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Yeah, definitely don’t give up. You will have luck with other species or hardier queens of the same species eventually.
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
Keep ordinary ants in extraordinary ways.

#29 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted September 6 2019 - 4:10 PM

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But it seems Camponotus tend to have higher mortality rates even after they get workers.


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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis

#30 Offline ANTdrew - Posted September 6 2019 - 4:43 PM

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I think it has to due with the symbiotic Blochmania bacteria that Concordantman mentioned in posts a few weeks ago. Captive colonies lack it and suffer nutrient deficiencies as a result. I think this is why big captive caught colonies do fine, but colonies raised from a single queen struggle. Camponotus really just aren’t my cup of tea anyway.
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"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
Keep ordinary ants in extraordinary ways.

#31 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted September 6 2019 - 5:09 PM

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Is there a way to get the bacteria for them? Like maybe a naturalistic vivarium or something?


Edited by Antennal_Scrobe, September 6 2019 - 5:09 PM.

Currently keeping:

 

Tetramorium immigrans, Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Myrmica punctiventris, Formica subsericea

Formica pallidefulva, Aphaeogaster cf. rudis

Camponotus pennsylvanicus

Camponotus nearcticus

Crematogaster cerasi

Temnothorax ambiguus

Prenolepis imparis

#32 Offline DDD101DDD - Posted September 6 2019 - 5:09 PM

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I think it has to due with the symbiotic Blochmania bacteria that Concordantman mentioned in posts a few weeks ago. Captive colonies lack it and suffer nutrient deficiencies as a result. I think this is why big captive caught colonies do fine, but colonies raised from a single queen struggle. Camponotus really just aren’t my cup of tea anyway.

Well, how do you get Bloachmania in your colony?


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#33 Offline ANTdrew - Posted September 6 2019 - 6:08 PM

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Who knows? They must pick it up by tunneling through rotten wood or else by eating suitable insects that also carry it. More research definitely needs to be done on this.
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
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#34 Offline ForestDragon - Posted September 7 2019 - 6:04 AM

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I aggree this is a big thing that we as a hobby need to find out how it is aquired to give better care to our camponotus species 


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#35 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted September 7 2019 - 11:51 AM

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We should ask a myrmecologist to look into this.


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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis

#36 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted September 8 2019 - 8:42 AM

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We should ask a myrmecologist to look into this.

YES. And it's not like this wouldn't be useful to scientists too.


Currently keeping:

 

Tetramorium immigrans, Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Myrmica punctiventris, Formica subsericea

Formica pallidefulva, Aphaeogaster cf. rudis

Camponotus pennsylvanicus

Camponotus nearcticus

Crematogaster cerasi

Temnothorax ambiguus

Prenolepis imparis

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