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Queen from central Europe on July 29th 2019 - NEW PICS

Started By Quizzie , Aug 1 2019 11:18 AM

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#1 Offline Quizzie - Posted August 1 2019 - 11:18 AM

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Could someone, please, identify her? I'm guessing Formica lemani or Camponotus fallax?
Sorry for the bad pictures, I could take some more later...
 
Location of collection: Czech Republic - northern mountains (around 1000 meters a.s.l.)
Date of collection: July 29th 2019 (hot and rainy day)
Habitat of collection: forest road
Length: 9-10 mm

Coloration, texture: black, extremely shiny

 

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Edited by Quizzie, August 2 2019 - 10:03 PM.

Formica cinerea (queen of 2018)

Formica rufibarbis (queen of 2019)

Formica pratensis? (queen of 2020)

#2 Offline ponerinecat - Posted August 1 2019 - 12:09 PM

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Um... The top one is camponotus, while the other is formica. I'm supposing you forgot to say you had two.


#3 Offline Quizzie - Posted August 1 2019 - 12:34 PM

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Um... The top one is camponotus, while the other is formica. I'm supposing you forgot to say you had two.

 

Oops, sorry. I do have two, but I posted the other one in a different thread. I got the pictures mixed up.

This thread is about the second picture (I removed the first one).

It's Formica then? Perhaps lemani?


Formica cinerea (queen of 2018)

Formica rufibarbis (queen of 2019)

Formica pratensis? (queen of 2020)

#4 Offline ponerinecat - Posted August 1 2019 - 1:33 PM

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I dunno about european species, but it's formica.


#5 Offline Quizzie - Posted August 1 2019 - 1:38 PM

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I dunno about european species, but it's formica.

 

Thanks.

I'm curious how you're able to recognize Formica from Camponotus just by looking at a bad photo... I got them mixed up even though I took the pictures.


Formica cinerea (queen of 2018)

Formica rufibarbis (queen of 2019)

Formica pratensis? (queen of 2020)

#6 Offline ponerinecat - Posted August 1 2019 - 2:19 PM

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One way is the proportions. Formica have rounded gasters and camponotus have long ones. Same goes for the thorax. The head sizes are also different and the shape as well.


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#7 Offline GeorgeK - Posted August 1 2019 - 2:36 PM

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Formicas also usually have red/brownish legs just like this one does. Also flying time. Camponotus in Europe usually fly may-jun while formicas fly july-aug


#8 Offline Quizzie - Posted August 1 2019 - 9:25 PM

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One way is the proportions. Formica have rounded gasters and camponotus have long ones. Same goes for the thorax. The head sizes are also different and the shape as well.

 

Thanks. I guess I need more practice.

 

Formicas also usually have red/brownish legs just like this one does. Also flying time. Camponotus in Europe usually fly may-jun while formicas fly july-aug

 

This doesn't hold here. The other queen is Camponotus herculeanus (I think) and was caught on July 30th and has reddish legs.


Formica cinerea (queen of 2018)

Formica rufibarbis (queen of 2019)

Formica pratensis? (queen of 2020)

#9 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted August 2 2019 - 10:18 AM

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Camponotus also tend to have square heads, while Formica have more round.


"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis

#10 Offline Quizzie - Posted August 2 2019 - 11:45 AM

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I added two more pictures.

 

Does anybody know which Formica species it is?


Formica cinerea (queen of 2018)

Formica rufibarbis (queen of 2019)

Formica pratensis? (queen of 2020)

#11 Offline Lukas - Posted December 30 2019 - 6:33 AM

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I added two more pictures.

 

Does anybody know which Formica species it is?

Hi, 

according to the mentioned altitude and also photos it is most probably Formica (Serviformica) lemani.


#12 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted December 30 2019 - 7:48 AM

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Looks like Formica lemani to me.

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