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Ant ID please, from Chetumal, Quintana Roo, Mexico (July 2, 2019)


Best Answer AntsBC , July 2 2019 - 12:30 PM

Her bicolored head looks a lot like that of Azteca nigra.

 

Azteca nigra queens have an abundance of erect setae on their mesosoma, and relatively short heads, neither of which this specimen possesses. Furthermore, Azteca nigra aren't recorded to be present in Quintana Roo. We can effectively rule out that species.

 

There are four recorded Azteca species in Quintana Roo: A. alfari, A. forelii, A. instabilis, and A. velox.

 

We can rule out A. alfari due to the fact that their "dorsal surface of head, when viewed in profile, with setae occurring in three clusters separated by distinct gaps, one cluster on and just above the clypeus, one around the ocelli (these may be entirely absent), and one on the upper vertex". This queen does not possess those hairs.

 

We can rule out A. forelii because their "dorsal surface of mandible evenly covered with abundant large piligerous puncta (Fig. 1G), setae arising from puncta erect, about as long as width of mandibular teeth". This queen doesn't possess those characteristics.

 

We can rule out A. instabilis as they are recorded to be larger then this specimen, and having "large ocelli", which doesn't match with this queen. Their heads also don't match with this specimen.

 

So, finally we arrive at the correct species, Azteca velox. Their heads are described as "more cordate, sides more strongly narrowing anteriorly", which does match with this queen. They also are recorded to have longer heads in comparison to some of the other species. Furthermore, they are recorded to have the bicoloration that this queen possesses.

 

http://www.antwiki.o...a_Azteca_queens

 

TL:DR: She's Azteca velox

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#1 Offline rbaezam - Posted July 2 2019 - 9:30 AM

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1. Location of collection In a park, Chetumal, Mexico

2. Date of collection June 15, 2019
3. Habitat of collection a lot of vegetation, near the beach, very humid weather
4. Length around 10mm
5. Coloration, hue, pattern and texture black thorax, black gaster with yellow stripes, black with some red/brown head
6. Distinguishing characteristics 
7. Anything else distinctive 
8. Nest description

9. Nuptial flight time and date morning around 10am
10 . Post the clearest pictures possible of the top, side, and face of the ant in question, and if possible, their nest and the habitat they were collected in.

Pics below. In case it's hard to ID with these pictures, I'll try to get better ones.

 

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MjqMwOJ.jpg

cJDarq7.jpg

VCmXu8r.jpg


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#2 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted July 2 2019 - 9:42 AM

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Liometopum occidental.

#3 Offline AntsBC - Posted July 2 2019 - 9:56 AM

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Liometopum occidental.

 

Liometopum occidentale is not present in Quintana Roo, or anywhere near it.


Edited by AntsBC, July 2 2019 - 10:06 AM.

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#4 Offline rbaezam - Posted July 2 2019 - 9:59 AM

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Do you think it could be Azteca sp? it's also a Dolichoderinae and in the park where I got this queen there were several trees with Azteca workers.


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Liometopum occidental.

 
Liometopum occidentale is not present in Quintana Roo, or anywhere near it.
 
The only recorded Liometopum species present in Quintana Roo, (that I could find at least), is Liometopum apiculatum. Curiously, this specimen isn't nearly hairy enough to match with them. Because of this, I wonder if this queen is an undescribed Liometopum species. 
 
I truly don't know enough about Mexican ants to even make a guess, though. It could very well be from a entirely different genus.

Nice catch. Thanks.

#6 Offline AntsBC - Posted July 2 2019 - 10:18 AM

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Do you think it could be Azteca sp? it's also a Dolichoderinae and in the park where I got this queen there were several trees with Azteca workers.

 

Probably Azteca velox then. 

 

http://www.antwiki.o...a_Azteca_queens


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#7 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted July 2 2019 - 10:19 AM

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But her head reminds me too much of Liometopum I'm used to in California.

#8 Offline Aaron567 - Posted July 2 2019 - 10:51 AM

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Her bicolored head looks a lot like that of Azteca nigra.


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#9 Offline Mdrogun - Posted July 2 2019 - 11:05 AM

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Definitely looks like an Azteca sp. to me


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#10 Offline rbaezam - Posted July 2 2019 - 11:14 AM

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Definitely looks like an Azteca sp. to me

 

Yes that's what I think too, and I know determining the specific sp is very difficult without better photos.

 

I've been wanting to catch an Azteca queen for the last 3 years and I was very happy when she came to me flying. Now I just need to wait maybe 2 or 3 weeks to get the first workers.



#11 Offline AntsBC - Posted July 2 2019 - 12:30 PM   Best Answer

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Her bicolored head looks a lot like that of Azteca nigra.

 

Azteca nigra queens have an abundance of erect setae on their mesosoma, and relatively short heads, neither of which this specimen possesses. Furthermore, Azteca nigra aren't recorded to be present in Quintana Roo. We can effectively rule out that species.

 

There are four recorded Azteca species in Quintana Roo: A. alfari, A. forelii, A. instabilis, and A. velox.

 

We can rule out A. alfari due to the fact that their "dorsal surface of head, when viewed in profile, with setae occurring in three clusters separated by distinct gaps, one cluster on and just above the clypeus, one around the ocelli (these may be entirely absent), and one on the upper vertex". This queen does not possess those hairs.

 

We can rule out A. forelii because their "dorsal surface of mandible evenly covered with abundant large piligerous puncta (Fig. 1G), setae arising from puncta erect, about as long as width of mandibular teeth". This queen doesn't possess those characteristics.

 

We can rule out A. instabilis as they are recorded to be larger then this specimen, and having "large ocelli", which doesn't match with this queen. Their heads also don't match with this specimen.

 

So, finally we arrive at the correct species, Azteca velox. Their heads are described as "more cordate, sides more strongly narrowing anteriorly", which does match with this queen. They also are recorded to have longer heads in comparison to some of the other species. Furthermore, they are recorded to have the bicoloration that this queen possesses.

 

http://www.antwiki.o...a_Azteca_queens

 

TL:DR: She's Azteca velox


Edited by AntsBC, July 2 2019 - 12:33 PM.

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#12 Offline Ants_Netherlands - Posted January 18 2023 - 4:59 PM

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Hi there,

It is Azteca nigra. Late reaction to an old post, but I wanted to point out the poor species identification attempt made by AntsBC. The queens of this species have an abundance of erect setae on the thorax, as AntsBC wrote, but he didn't take a good look, as there are plenty of hairs visible on the sides of the queen's thorax in dorsal view. Due to low footage quality, it is just difficult to see:

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He should have used type specimens (Casent0249597) for reference. See attachment below.

Azteca_nigra_casent0249597_h_1_high.jpg
1200px-Azteca_nigra_casent0249597_p_1_high.jpg
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It is a perfect match to the type specimen, which is shown on Antwiki: https://www.antwiki....ki/Azteca_nigra
Casent0249597.

Edit: Besides a perfect match in morphology, new species records are made all the time.

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Edited by Ants_Netherlands, January 18 2023 - 5:00 PM.

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#13 Offline Manitobant - Posted January 18 2023 - 5:06 PM

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Hi there,
It is Azteca nigra. Late reaction to an old post, but I wanted to point out the poor species identification attempt made by AntsBC. The queens of this species have an abundance of erect setae on the thorax, as AntsBC wrote, but he didn't take a good look, as there are plenty of hairs visible on the sides of the queen's thorax in dorsal view. Due to low footage quality, it is just difficult to see:
attachicon.gifWhatsApp Image 2023-01-19 at 01.44.16 (2).jpeg
attachicon.gifWhatsApp Image 2023-01-19 at 01.44.16 (1).jpeg
attachicon.gifWhatsApp Image 2023-01-19 at 01.44.16.jpeg
He should have used type specimens (Casent0249597) for reference. See attachment below.
attachicon.gifAzteca_nigra_casent0249597_h_1_high.jpg
attachicon.gif1200px-Azteca_nigra_casent0249597_p_1_high.jpg
attachicon.gif1200px-Azteca_nigra_casent0249597_d_1_high.jpg
It is a perfect match to the type specimen, which is shown on Antwiki: https://www.antwiki....ki/Azteca_nigra
Casent0249597.
Edit: Besides a perfect match in morphology, new species records are made all the time.
Kind regards,
Ants Netherlands

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#14 Offline antsriondel - Posted January 19 2023 - 6:46 AM

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1. Location of collection In a park, Chetumal, Mexico

2. Date of collection June 15, 2019
3. Habitat of collection a lot of vegetation, near the beach, very humid weather
4. Length around 10mm
5. Coloration, hue, pattern and texture black thorax, black gaster with yellow stripes, black with some red/brown head
6. Distinguishing characteristics 
7. Anything else distinctive 
8. Nest description

9. Nuptial flight time and date morning around 10am
10 . Post the clearest pictures possible of the top, side, and face of the ant in question, and if possible, their nest and the habitat they were collected in.

Pics below. In case it's hard to ID with these pictures, I'll try to get better ones.

 

poV9Fz5.jpg

MjqMwOJ.jpg

cJDarq7.jpg

VCmXu8r.jpg

 

Wow what a beautiful Queen! Good luck with her!  (y)



#15 Offline Manitobant - Posted January 19 2023 - 7:54 AM

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It’s likely long dead by now unfortunately.

#16 Offline antsriondel - Posted January 19 2023 - 7:58 AM

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It’s likely long dead by now unfortunately.

Yeah sorry, did not realize how old this was. :blush:


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