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Any good anting parks in Southern California

Started By Broncos , Oct 19 2019 10:32 AM

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#1 Offline Broncos - Posted October 19 2019 - 10:32 AM

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I am looking to go on a queen ant hunt and want to know if anyone knows some good parks in Southern California.

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#2 Offline Kalidas - Posted October 19 2019 - 11:54 AM

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I am looking to go on a queen ant hunt and want to know if anyone knows some good parks in Southern California.

Well nuptial flights are mostly over so you will have to wait till next year but Joshua Tree is pretty great.

Find Dspdrew in one the threads and look at his signature for something called "Southern California ants" and it will link to a map page with all the locations of ant queen he has found around SoCal

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#3 Offline dspdrew - Posted October 19 2019 - 12:07 PM

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I am looking to go on a queen ant hunt and want to know if anyone knows some good parks in Southern California.

 

Parks in general are not good because it's usually illegal to collect there. Good places would be anywhere in the wilderness, outside of a park.


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#4 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted October 19 2019 - 12:09 PM

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I am looking to go on a queen ant hunt and want to know if anyone knows some good parks in Southern California.

 
Parks in general are not good because it's usually illegal to collect there. Good places would be anywhere in the wilderness, outside of a park.

Yeah, because the land is owned by the government and is technically private property, you can't legally collect ants there. At least I believe that's how it works

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#5 Offline Broncos - Posted October 19 2019 - 12:42 PM

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I am looking to go on a queen ant hunt and want to know if anyone knows some good parks in Southern California.


Parks in general are not good because it's usually illegal to collect there. Good places would be anywhere in the wilderness, outside of a park.

 

Yea I meant like... regional or camping parks


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#6 Offline dspdrew - Posted October 20 2019 - 2:56 AM

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I am looking to go on a queen ant hunt and want to know if anyone knows some good parks in Southern California.


Parks in general are not good because it's usually illegal to collect there. Good places would be anywhere in the wilderness, outside of a park.

 

Yea I meant like... regional or camping parks

 

 

Illegal as well.


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#7 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted October 20 2019 - 7:26 AM

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I am looking to go on a queen ant hunt and want to know if anyone knows some good parks in Southern California.


Parks in general are not good because it's usually illegal to collect there. Good places would be anywhere in the wilderness, outside of a park.

 

Yea I meant like... regional or camping parks

 

 

Illegal as well.

 

Well, I'm a criminal then! :lol:


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#8 Offline Manitobant - Posted October 20 2019 - 7:56 AM

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I am looking to go on a queen ant hunt and want to know if anyone knows some good parks in Southern California.

Well nuptial flights are mostly over so you will have to wait till next year but Joshua Tree is pretty great.
Find Dspdrew in one the threads and look at his signature for something called "Southern California ants" and it will link to a map page with all the locations of ant queen he has found around SoCal
I wouldn't give up just yet. Last December I found solenopsis xyloni queens in palm springs.
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#9 Offline Kalidas - Posted October 20 2019 - 9:20 AM

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I am looking to go on a queen ant hunt and want to know if anyone knows some good parks in Southern California.

Well nuptial flights are mostly over so you will have to wait till next year but Joshua Tree is pretty great.
Find Dspdrew in one the threads and look at his signature for something called "Southern California ants" and it will link to a map page with all the locations of ant queen he has found around SoCal
I wouldn't give up just yet. Last December I found solenopsis xyloni queens in palm springs.

I tend to try and avoid solenopsis. Their aggressive nature, fast growth, and painful stings don't mix well with me having little kids

#10 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted October 20 2019 - 9:25 AM

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I am looking to go on a queen ant hunt and want to know if anyone knows some good parks in Southern California.


Parks in general are not good because it's usually illegal to collect there. Good places would be anywhere in the wilderness, outside of a park.

 

Yea I meant like... regional or camping parks

 

 

Illegal as well.

 

Well, I'm a criminal then! :lol:

 

SeCuRiTy! sEcUrItY!  

I am sorry for being a Karen :lol:


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#11 Offline dspdrew - Posted October 20 2019 - 4:23 PM

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Well, I'm a criminal then! :lol:

 
In America, we're all criminals for one reason or another. :lol:


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#12 Offline Broncos - Posted October 20 2019 - 4:25 PM

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I am looking to go on a queen ant hunt and want to know if anyone knows some good parks in Southern California.


Parks in general are not good because it's usually illegal to collect there. Good places would be anywhere in the wilderness, outside of a park.



Yea I meant like... regional or camping parks



Illegal as well.


Well, I'm a criminal then! :lol:



In America, we're all criminals for one reason or another. :lol:


That’s awesome

I just caught a small colony of southern fire ants.


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#13 Offline Manitobant - Posted October 20 2019 - 4:27 PM

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Oh nice! That small colony should be huge in a few months.
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#14 Offline Kalidas - Posted October 20 2019 - 4:56 PM

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Well, I'm a criminal then! :lol:

 
In America, we're all criminals for one reason or another. :lol:

Lol you are not wrong

#15 Offline ponerinecat - Posted October 21 2019 - 4:27 PM

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As no one has mentioned this, you may collect off parks if given written permission from the manager.,


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#16 Offline Kalidas - Posted October 21 2019 - 4:35 PM

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As no one has mentioned this, you may collect off parks if given written permission from the manager.,


That, I did not know

#17 Offline zantezaint - Posted October 21 2019 - 6:29 PM

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Orosco Ridge Trailhead is a trail north of Ramona that has many I believe to be many Pogonomyrmex Californicus ant colonies fairly near the entrance. I rarely see anyone go through the trail. The road splits up into two paths, follow the left path that goes up the slope, where the colonies begin to appear. I haven't found any Pogonomyrmex queen, but I have found 2 Myrmeccocystus queens, even though the area is primarily dominated by Pogonomyrmex colonies. I would use websites like Wundermap to determine when it would rain there to predict nuptial flights that occur to save you the trip of coming empty handed.

 

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1 x Camponotus fragilis (Carpenter/wood ant) colony + 1 x Camponotus sansabeanus (Carpenter/wood ant) colony.

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#18 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted October 22 2019 - 12:28 PM

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Orosco Ridge Trailhead is a trail north of Ramona that has many I believe to be many Pogonomyrmex Californicus ant colonies fairly near the entrance. I rarely see anyone go through the trail. The road splits up into two paths, follow the left path that goes up the slope, where the colonies begin to appear. I haven't found any Pogonomyrmex queen, but I have found 2 Myrmeccocystus queens, even though the area is primarily dominated by Pogonomyrmex colonies. I would use websites like Wundermap to determine when it would rain there to predict nuptial flights that occur to save you the trip of coming empty handed.

https://www.google.c...9!4d-116.857553

Wow, that's something I never thought of doing, checking the weather before I go anting :lol:. Just shows how much I know :lol:

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#19 Offline mbullock42086 - Posted November 2 2019 - 1:22 PM

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state/national forest and BLM land generally let you collect stuff.

 

 not legal:

widlerness parks, open space preserves, county parks or state parks


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state/national forest and BLM land generally let you collect stuff.

 

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widlerness parks, open space preserves, county parks or state parks

again, unless written permission is given


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