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#1 Offline Samuelp.1 - Posted June 18 2019 - 2:21 PM

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Okay so the basic to know if a queen is fertile is to wait until they take off their wings.

But i was just wondering if there is another way to know if they are fertile. Because sometimes they just don't take off their wings and i think they're not fertile and i let them go, or if their wings are wet because they were found in a pool or something they don't take off their wings because their wings are a mess so that's why i'd like to know if there's some different way to know that.

 

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#2 Offline PacificNorthWestern - Posted June 18 2019 - 2:34 PM

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The only way to know if a queen is fertile is for them to get workers. Sometimes queens that take off their wings may be infertile to. I do not think their is another way to see, please someone more experienced than me correct me if I'm wrong


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#3 Offline AntsBC - Posted June 18 2019 - 2:40 PM

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After a nuptial flight, many fertile queens will curl up and clean their gaster. 

 

Eg. 

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=_CPgAvgcPEI

 

PacificNorthWestern is right though, you never officially know if a queen is fertile until she gets her first workers. Infertile queens can even lay eggs, which would turn into males if they completed the metamorphosis process.


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#4 Offline ponerinecat - Posted June 18 2019 - 2:53 PM

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Dissection! Of course, the queen will be dead, so not really good for ant keepers.


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#5 Offline KBant - Posted June 18 2019 - 3:11 PM

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get it to pee on a pregnancy stick. if you don't wanna keep the babies, plan B pill might work but only up to a certain time. 


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#6 Offline AntPhycho - Posted June 18 2019 - 4:02 PM

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get it to pee on a pregnancy stick. if you don't wanna keep the babies, plan B pill might work but only up to a certain time. 

Plan B sugar water  :lol: Just crush it up and mix it in 


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#7 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted June 19 2019 - 2:57 AM

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There's no way to tell for sure. Just keep it and hope for the best.



#8 Offline ANTdrew - Posted June 22 2019 - 7:06 AM

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Many mated queens never take off their wings. You can sort of tell if they have settled in and are tending their eggs. I release winged queens that continue to act agitated and keep tugging at the cotton after a week or so.
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#9 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted June 29 2019 - 1:44 PM

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If an unmated queen lays eggs, she usually does not tend to them, and they are scattered across the test tube. Mated queens keep eggs in a neat pile and often carry them around. This works most of the time.


"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

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Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#10 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted June 29 2019 - 1:47 PM

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And if you have a polygynous colony, I have observed that unmated queens will help the mated ones raise their colony. Then once the workers arrive, they kill the unmated queens.


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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis





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