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Help id two of my 1 year old ant colonys


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#1 Offline ugo - Posted June 1 2019 - 2:26 PM

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hi, this 2 colonys are about 1 year old, got the queens last summer in central Missouri, thank you for any help.
1st one is about 8mm got her July of last year in a farm land setting. 
2nd one is about 4 to 5mm and I got her May of last year in a paved nature trail, both in central MO 

i know this 1st one is a lasius  queen, but what type?  
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And my 2nd colony I believe its in the brachymyrmex family, also got in central MO. this colony does not cocoon even though they have sand inside. 
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#2 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted June 1 2019 - 3:34 PM

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Can't do anything without proper measurements. Please follow the id template.

#3 Offline ugo - Posted June 1 2019 - 3:57 PM

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sorry, the 1st one is about 8mm got her July of last year in a farm land setting. 
2nd one is about 4 to 5mm and I got her May of last year in a paved nature trail, both in central MO 


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#4 Offline Martialis - Posted June 1 2019 - 5:08 PM

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Compare the first to Lasius alienus.


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#5 Offline Aaron567 - Posted June 1 2019 - 6:39 PM

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First is Lasius, probably americanus by the looks of it. Second is a Nylanderia sp.


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#6 Offline ugo - Posted June 1 2019 - 7:59 PM

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First is Lasius, probably americanus by the looks of it. Second is a Nylanderia sp.

really? i always thought the 2nd one were brachymyrmex. what sets them apart?  



#7 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted June 1 2019 - 8:02 PM

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First is Lasius, probably americanus by the looks of it. Second is a Nylanderia sp.


really? i always thought the 2nd one were brachymyrmex. what sets them apart?  

Their overall build.

#8 Offline Aaron567 - Posted June 2 2019 - 11:30 AM

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Brachymyrmex spp. have cocoons over their pupae and would have much shorter antennae than these. You also wouldn't find any dark-colored Brachymyrmex anywhere around central Missouri, only the light colored subterranean species Brachymyrmex depilis.


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#9 Offline TheRealAntMan - Posted June 2 2019 - 11:38 AM

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First is Lasius, probably americanus by the looks of it. Second is a Nylanderia sp.

really? i always thought the 2nd one were brachymyrmex. what sets them apart?  

 

Nylanderia is often noticeably larger than Brachymyrmex. And there aren't any dark-colored Brachymyrmex in Missouri. Your Nylanderia appear to be Nylanderia faisonensis.


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#10 Offline ugo - Posted June 2 2019 - 1:32 PM

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thanks for everyones help, The Nylanderia had a hard time getting her 1st workers. I think she had about 6 workers by the time I put her to hibernate, I took her out on March and doing very good now.






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