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#2101 Offline ReignofRage - Posted October 3 2021 - 1:10 PM

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Did you find some queens?

I found multiple.



#2102 Offline Dumpling - Posted October 3 2021 - 4:01 PM

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Did you find some queens?

I found multiple.

 

:D  What do they look like? Are you going to make a journal for them?


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My PFP is an ant. Yes. An Ant. I promise.

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#2103 Offline ReignofRage - Posted October 3 2021 - 5:03 PM

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Did you find some queens?

I found multiple.

 

:D  What do they look like? Are you going to make a journal for them?

 

I have them in my Camponotus spp. Journal, bottom few posts should have pictures.



#2104 Offline ExponentMars - Posted October 29 2021 - 9:13 PM

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Ooo I might join in on an anting trip if they're still a thing (this thread was started 6 years ago so idrk if anting trips still happen) 


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#2105 Offline ReignofRage - Posted December 10 2021 - 5:39 PM

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Here is a map with public records* of Camponotus us-ca02 taken from multiple places such as Inaturalist, here and other forums, Discord, Antweb, etc. Take the record accuracy with a grain of salt as only the records with one kilometer or greater obscuring were labeled as such. The description of the map includes the disclaimer about record accuracy and that pulling off on random pull-offs can also be a way to find queens during flights. The flights seem to be triggered by days that reach ~75-80+℉. This trigger hypothesis is corroborated by the recorded flights that happened on 17.vi.2010, 7.iv.2012, 3.iv.2015, 31.iii.2019, and 27.ii.2020. The major flight that that happened 29.iii.2021 is excluded due to the heat spike reaching in excess of 88℉ and queens flying the day after when it dropped down to 80℉, presumably the heat was too hot. Speaking about the flight that was recorded about the flight in 2021 is that queens resided up in only pine trees until twilight, then they would drop down to the ground and start running around. Hope this helps you all with next year's flights!

 

Takeaway: Map link and that queens often reside high up in trees until twilight.

 

*If you want to contribute records feel free to PM them to me.


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#2106 Offline dspdrew - Posted December 10 2021 - 6:46 PM

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Here is a map with public records* of Camponotus us-ca02 taken from multiple places such as Inaturalist, here and other forums, Discord, Antweb, etc. Take the record accuracy with a grain of salt as only the records with one kilometer or greater obscuring were labeled as such. The description of the map includes the disclaimer about record accuracy and that pulling off on random pull-offs can also be a way to find queens during flights. The flights seem to be triggered by days that reach ~75℉ at around 4:00 to 5:00 p.m. This ~75℉ by evening hypothesis is corroborated by the recorded flights that happened on 17.vi.2010, 31.iii.2019, and 27.ii.2020. The major flight that that happened 29.iii.2021 is excluded due to the heat spike reaching in excess of 88℉ and queens flying the day after when it dropped down to 80℉, presumably the heat was too hot. Speaking about the flight that was recorded about the flight in 2021 is that queens resided up in only pine trees until twilight, then they would drop down to the ground and start running around. Hope this helps you all with next year's flights!

 

Takeaway: Map link, hypothesized flight trigger is ~75℉ at around 4:00 to 5:00 p.m., and that queens often reside high up in the pine trees until twilight.

 

*If you want to contribute records feel free to PM them to me.

 

Where I find these there are no pine trees, only live oak trees if any trees at all.



#2107 Offline ReignofRage - Posted December 10 2021 - 6:50 PM

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Here is a map with public records* of Camponotus us-ca02 taken from multiple places such as Inaturalist, here and other forums, Discord, Antweb, etc. Take the record accuracy with a grain of salt as only the records with one kilometer or greater obscuring were labeled as such. The description of the map includes the disclaimer about record accuracy and that pulling off on random pull-offs can also be a way to find queens during flights. The flights seem to be triggered by days that reach ~75℉ at around 4:00 to 5:00 p.m. This ~75℉ by evening hypothesis is corroborated by the recorded flights that happened on 17.vi.2010, 31.iii.2019, and 27.ii.2020. The major flight that that happened 29.iii.2021 is excluded due to the heat spike reaching in excess of 88℉ and queens flying the day after when it dropped down to 80℉, presumably the heat was too hot. Speaking about the flight that was recorded about the flight in 2021 is that queens resided up in only pine trees until twilight, then they would drop down to the ground and start running around. Hope this helps you all with next year's flights!

 

Takeaway: Map link, hypothesized flight trigger is ~75℉ at around 4:00 to 5:00 p.m., and that queens often reside high up in the pine trees until twilight.

 

*If you want to contribute records feel free to PM them to me.

 

Where I find these there are no pine trees, only live oak trees if any trees at all.

 

The area where the queens were seen to be only in pine trees had multiple types. No queens were found on oaks, eucalyptus, or any other tree. It was more of a detail for areas with pines rather than saying they just won't be on anything besides pine. Queens can be found even in chaparral.


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#2108 Offline dspdrew - Posted December 14 2021 - 1:48 AM

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Obviously nothing flying now, but here is a video of a Crematogaster mating flight I took back in June.

 


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#2109 Offline dspdrew - Posted December 14 2021 - 2:12 AM

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Here's some pictures and videos from my 2021 desert anting trips.

 

This spot had a really specific speed limit. I got crazy and drove 15 MPH.

 

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Just up the mountain a bit from Lucerne Valley, CA

 

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#2110 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted December 14 2021 - 6:29 AM

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Here's some pictures and videos from my 2021 desert anting trips.

 

This spot had a really specific speed limit. I got crazy and drove 15 MPH.

 

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Just up the mountain a bit from Lucerne Valley, CA

 

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Wow 15 mph. You are a legend!!! :D


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#2111 Offline B_rad0806 - Posted December 14 2021 - 5:55 PM

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Here's some pictures and videos from my 2021 desert anting trips.

 

This spot had a really specific speed limit. I got crazy and drove 15 MPH.

 

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Just up the mountain a bit from Lucerne Valley, CA

 

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#2112 Offline NickAnter - Posted December 14 2021 - 10:31 PM

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Those Crematogaster are C. mutans, right?

 

Anyway, I wonder what old guy who thought he was so funny put that sign there.


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However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

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#2113 Offline dspdrew - Posted December 17 2021 - 1:59 AM

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Those Crematogaster are C. mutans, right?

 

Anyway, I wonder what old guy who thought he was so funny put that sign there.

 

Now that you mention it, I think you might be right. I wish I would have taken some to ID. I just never think about that with Crematogaster since it's normally impossible.

 

Those speed limit signs were on private roads inside a mine.


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#2114 Offline dspdrew - Posted December 17 2021 - 2:05 AM

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This makes trips to the desert soooo much better.

 

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Amazingly, this was the best spot I collected from last season. :lol:

 

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#2115 Offline Zeiss - Posted December 17 2021 - 2:36 AM

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Now there just needs to be an A/C you can put in your car instead of having the car run all the time.



#2116 Offline dspdrew - Posted December 17 2021 - 2:50 AM

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Now there just needs to be an A/C you can put in your car instead of having the car run all the time.

 

It has an AC. It just doesn't work unless the engine is running.



#2117 Offline Zeiss - Posted December 17 2021 - 3:05 AM

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Now there just needs to be an A/C you can put in your car instead of having the car run all the time.

It has an AC. It just doesn't work unless the engine is running.

Dang, useless A/C then.



#2118 Offline PaigeX - Posted December 17 2021 - 6:02 AM

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You have an A/C that works? woot! here I am on hot days with our car and no A/C xD 

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#2119 Offline Arthroverts - Posted March 25 2022 - 10:11 PM

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I've been finding lots of Veromessor pergandei and Camponotus vicinus queens lately in Hesperia and Oak Hills, in the case of the former I've been seeing queens wandering around on residential streets after dark, and flying drones and queens almost every day.

 

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#2120 Offline dspdrew - Posted March 26 2022 - 8:02 AM

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I've been finding lots of Veromessor pergandei and Camponotus vicinus queens lately in Hesperia and Oak Hills, in the case of the former I've been seeing queens wandering around on residential streets after dark, and flying drones and queens almost every day.

 

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You're finding Veromessor pergandei out there right now? I didn't know it even rained there.






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