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Are these Pheidole?


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#1 Offline Foogoo - Posted February 20 2015 - 8:39 PM

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Habitat: Grassy field
Length: ~2-3mm
Color, hue, pattern and texture: Red head and thorax, dark gaster
Distinguishing characteristics: Polymorphic
Anything else distinctive: ---
Nest description: Mound

 

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#2 Offline Gregory2455 - Posted February 20 2015 - 8:57 PM

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Of what I can see, yes.



#3 Offline Miles - Posted February 20 2015 - 8:58 PM

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Yes, this is Pheidole.


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#4 Offline Foogoo - Posted February 20 2015 - 10:47 PM

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Any clues on species? This is only the second time I've seen Pheidole. The other colony I saw a few weeks ago looked like mini Pogonomyrmex.


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#5 Offline Gregory2455 - Posted February 20 2015 - 11:15 PM

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I would think they are in the Fallax group.



#6 Offline kellakk - Posted February 20 2015 - 11:41 PM

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Did you collect this colony?  That's the Pheidole sp. that I see making mounds around here.


Current Species:
Camponotus fragilis

Novomessor cockerelli

Pogonomyrmex montanus

Pogonomyrmex rugosus

Manica bradleyi

 

 


#7 Offline antmaniac - Posted February 21 2015 - 12:00 AM

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The major looks like Pheidole.



#8 Offline dspdrew - Posted February 21 2015 - 6:49 AM

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Looks like P. hyatti to me. They make mounds sometimes, and apparently are all over that area (assuming these were found in Chino Hills).


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#9 Offline kellakk - Posted February 21 2015 - 8:47 AM

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I would agree, but none of the P. hyatti majors I've seen have dark gasters.  Some of the ones in the picture do.  Is that just some variability in the species then?


Current Species:
Camponotus fragilis

Novomessor cockerelli

Pogonomyrmex montanus

Pogonomyrmex rugosus

Manica bradleyi

 

 


#10 Offline Foogoo - Posted February 21 2015 - 9:30 AM

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I would agree, but none of the P. hyatti majors I've seen have dark gasters.  Some of the ones in the picture do.  Is that just some variability in the species then?

 

Yes, I collected them. These weren't in one of those mounds but the nest was dug into soft ground. That was my thought too, these didn't seem to resemble the Pheidole we found in the mound.


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#11 Offline dspdrew - Posted February 21 2015 - 9:55 AM

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Yeah, now that I think about it, they might be a bit small for P. hyatti. There's so many different Pheidole species, and they have such a variation in color, without putting them on a microscope, I don't think we're going to know exactly what species these are.



#12 Offline Foogoo - Posted February 27 2015 - 9:11 PM

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Do any of these photos of a dead minor help with identifying species?

 
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#13 Offline dspdrew - Posted February 27 2015 - 9:36 PM

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Even the best microscope pictures in the world probably aren't going to help a whole lot considering how many Pheidole species there are around here.



#14 Offline Gregory2455 - Posted February 28 2015 - 12:26 AM

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Looks like a Pheidole (fallax group) sp. minor worker.






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